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   URI   The Peppermills of Jens Quistgaard
       
       
        ilovecurl wrote 4 hours 38 min ago:
        As an avid fan of Star Control, I can't help but love the Druuge model,
        "His reference for this mill’s shape comes from similarly shaped
        alien ships in a video game called Star Control."
       
        dmd wrote 5 hours 2 min ago:
        But can they sing?
        
   URI  [1]: https://teenage.engineering/products/choir
       
        jonstewart wrote 5 hours 7 min ago:
        Gorgeous pepper mills. The website breaks the back button, however.
       
          bookofjoe wrote 4 hours 34 min ago:
          Not for me.
       
        Crunchified wrote 5 hours 8 min ago:
        The pepper grinders at the gift shoppe at Seattle's Space Needle are
        terrible.  
        Someone like this designer needs to make a GOOD Space Needle pepper
        grinder with a good (Peugeot) mechanism!
        
        (I recall a sombrero-roofed observation tower at the I-95 South of the
        Border rest stop/tourist trap in South Carolina called the Spice
        Needle)
       
        buescher wrote 6 hours 19 min ago:
        It was sort of a thing for southern California machinists to start
        peppermill companies, or at least two.    I have a vintage William Bounds
        one marked "made on the third planet from the sun" and I used to have
        an Olde Thompson I think.
       
        mauvehaus wrote 8 hours 31 min ago:
        These are handsome, but my real question is: how's the mechanism? Of
        the half dozen or so pepper mills I've owned, half of them kind of
        sucked from the get-go (the current one grinds ok, but doesn't feed
        fresh peppercorns without a regular shake), and the other half broke in
        a couple years (the last one the adjustment mechanism jammed up). I
        don't feel like I'm an unreasonably aggressive pepper grinder, nor do I
        think I use an abnormally large amount of pepper. Hell, I'd only call
        myself a halfway decent home cook.
        
        In related news: does anyone want to recommend a decent commercial,
        easily available option? Not looking to spend a fortune, but would be
        willing to spend enough to have one that'll last another 40-50 years.
       
          horsawlarway wrote 1 hour 56 min ago:
          Not a fan of all the hexclad stuff, but I have to admit their pepper
          & salt grinders are excellent.
          
          I was given the large set: [1] Seems to be pretty similar to the
          other one posted, but about half the price ($129 for just the pepper
          grinder, $200 for the pair - they go on sale down to ~$85 on amazon
          every now and then as well).
          
          Having the built in cap is actually pretty damn useful, too - you can
          just grind into the cap and measure tsp out of it directly without
          needing another container.
          
          Easily the best grinders I have ever used, going strong 2 years in
          now.  I use them just about daily.
          
   URI    [1]: https://hexclad.com/products/hexmill-salt-and-pepper-grinder...
       
          searealist wrote 3 hours 41 min ago:
          I use a coffee grinder with a hand crank.
       
          pembrook wrote 3 hours 43 min ago:
          Peugeot used to be the best but apparently have degraded quality over
          the years.
          
          Zassenhaus and Zwilling are both German options of the same quality
          or better.
       
          jonah wrote 5 hours 4 min ago:
          We recently bought the "Trudeau Seville Pepper Mill, 6-Inch". It was
          quire inexpensive, has an all metal mechanism, and does a coarse
          grind that my wife likes. We've used it daily for a couple years now
          and it's been flawless.
       
          dgacmu wrote 5 hours 10 min ago:
          I have two of "The Original Greek Pepper Mill" - it's an 8" tall
          copper thing. It's been amazing. Why do I have two of them, you ask?
          I kept my mom's after she passed; it was probably 30 years old
          already.
          
          If you want to grind a ton of pepper with fine grind control, you
          could also use one of the modern generations of manual coffee
          grinders, like the MHW-3Bomber Blade R3 or the cheaper TIMEMORE
          knockoff. They have excellent and fast and precise grind mechanisms.
          I'm not sure about the MHW but the timemore will stand alone with the
          bottom of so you can use it like you'd use a coffee grinder, or
          attach the grinds cup if you want to crank out a lot.
          
          (I'm using an older, cheaper manual coffee grinder as my sichuan
          peppercorn grinder and it's solid for that but I do prefer the greek
          mill from an aesthetic perspective -- and it's so dang solid.)
       
          inferiorhuman wrote 5 hours 18 min ago:
          does anyone want to recommend a decent commercial, easily available
          option?
          
          I've a Vic Firth (yes, that Vic Firth) one that I've had for a couple
          decades.  They're now sold under the Fletcher's Mill brand.  They use
          their own stainless steel mechanism.
          
          I went looking for a mill for white pepper recently.  I've a 50 year
          old Danish mill I'd love to repair, but that's a project for another
          day.  Serious Eats seems to like the Kuhn Rikon ones but none of the
          long term reviews on the KR site are positive.    Peugeot naysayers
          seem to be popping up more frequently, and for that price I'd expect
          better.  Each seems to attract a few specific types of complaints
          which to me seems to lend a bit of credibility.
          
          In any case, my new Fletcher's Mill grinder just showed up today and
          superficially it looks like they've only made small changes.  The
          adjustment mechanism is the same and similar to the classic Peugeot
          mechanism.  I've not taken it apart, but I believe the grinding
          mechanism is the same two stage unit as my old one.
       
            deanputney wrote 1 hour 25 min ago:
            The Fletcher's Mill grinders are _excellent_. Highly recommend
            these.
       
          miriam_catira wrote 7 hours 23 min ago:
          No idea if it'll last 40-50 years, but I've used this probably about
          10(?), and it's been great. You do need a small funnel to fill it
          though. 
          It's not the standard size or functionality, but I've discovered I
          actually prefer this ratchet style. (It's fun!)
          
   URI    [1]: https://www.surlatable.com/product/sur-la-table-ratchet-mill...
       
          milleramp wrote 7 hours 48 min ago:
          I have gone through several mills and heard about the Mankitchen on
          HN a while back.  It's expensive but it's the best pepper mill I have
          ever used.
          
   URI    [1]: https://mannkitchen.eu/products/the-original-pepper-cannon-p...
       
            searealist wrote 3 hours 39 min ago:
            The price is insane, on par with the most expensive espresso hand
            grinders.
       
            caseyohara wrote 7 hours 45 min ago:
            I also heard about this mill on HN and can also say it’s by far
            the best peppermill I’ve ever used. It is rock solid. I also
            bought the salt mill.
       
          ryanchants wrote 7 hours 55 min ago:
          I've been using a Peugeot 23461 for 5 years of near daily cooking
          with no issues. Jut finished making a bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich
          with some aggressive peppering with it.
       
          atombender wrote 8 hours 9 min ago:
          Peugeot is the gold standard. The traditional hourglass shape is
          around $40-50 for the normal-sized version, and they have a lot of
          other modern designs. A lot of competing brands buy the internal
          mechanism from Peugeot.
          
          (If you're curious about the name: Yes, it was originally the same
          company as the Peugeot car/motorcycle company. It was spun out into a
          separate company at some point, but still owned by the descendants of
          the original Peugeot family.)
       
            ginko wrote 7 hours 38 min ago:
            Didn’t have great experiences with peugeot grinders.
       
              _whiteCaps_ wrote 7 hours 27 min ago:
              Interesting! My Peugeots have lasted 20 years and are still going
              strong. Maybe they've been enshittified since then.
       
                wrboyce wrote 5 hours 54 min ago:
                I have the metal ones, just looked and I bought them in March
                2018 and they’re fantastic - definitely not enshittified. I
                particularly like the adjustable grind size!
       
          bob1029 wrote 8 hours 12 min ago:
          I bought the cheapest coffee grinder I could find at the grocery
          store. Does a fantastic job. I usually grind up about a half cup at a
          time.
       
          kzrdude wrote 8 hours 21 min ago:
          It seems to list the mechanism on each model. A bunch of them seem to
          use Peugeot for the mechanism and I have a such branded grinder that
          seems to hold up really well..
       
          germinalphrase wrote 8 hours 23 min ago:
          These are well regarded, and I don’t have any complaints about mine
          (other than the style is basic black): [1] Mechanism is solid. More
          aggressive than your typical grinder, but maybe not as to the same
          degree as a Pepper Cannon.
          
          I would just call them to order though.
          
   URI    [1]: https://www.unicornmills.org/
       
          Clamchop wrote 8 hours 24 min ago:
          I've got an OXO that has worked great since I bought it in 2014. It's
          an ugly piece of white plastic, but it's efficient, unfussy,
          ergonomic, and adjustable.
          
   URI    [1]: https://a.co/d/609d3IX
       
            calmbonsai wrote 5 hours 49 min ago:
            I've got this OXO version and it has worked great too.    The
            singular down-side being that its rubbery bottom tends to grip too
            tightly to surfaces so it falls over instead of sliding.
            
            This makes sense due to that end being the gripped side during use.
            [1] I also own the aforementioned Unicorn.  I use it for "bulk
            black pepper" grinding and use this model for finer grinds of white
            and green pepper.
            
   URI      [1]: https://amzn.com/dp/B08DL86ZCQ
       
          davee5 wrote 8 hours 24 min ago:
          Mannkitchen Pepper Cannon.  I absolutely adore this device and have
          bought a few as friends for discerning cooks and mechanical gadget
          lovers.  Build quality is utterly fantastic and the quality of the
          grind is excellent.  Most importantly the ability for it to grind
          copious amounts of pepper with minimal input is unmatched.  I tried
          just about all the other ones recommended on various forums but none
          match up, not even close.  Yeah it's $200 but oh man is it nice.
       
        zhengyi13 wrote 8 hours 32 min ago:
        I clicked on the article on a lark, and I was stunned? certainly
        excited to see the "Acorn" model there: my father's had one of those
        for... well, as long as I can remember. Maybe near 50 years now?
        
        Still beautiful in teak.
       
        steve_adams_86 wrote 8 hours 54 min ago:
        Wow, these are beautiful. My dad used to make these as a sort of hobby
        (he liked any excuse to hop on the lathe, and they made great gifts;
        you don't realize how awful the ones in big box stores are until
        someone makes you a proper one). He'll love to see this.
        
        It didn't occur to me that there'd be such an extensive collection of
        something seemingly so obscure, yet here we are. It seems like this
        exists for everything out there.
        
        It's very nostalgic in a way. Though my dad's were different, the dark,
        solid wood and geometric shapes bring me back to my childhood.
       
        unwind wrote 9 hours 13 min ago:
        When the article said:
        
        These peppermills, otherwise known as “table seasoners”, evoke tiny
        household sculptures, powerful individually, but most compelling when
        grouped and viewed in sets.
        
        Is that some kind of direct translation from Danish, the "table
        seasoners" part? I'm certainly not a native speaker of English, but
        that was a term I've never heard before ... I tried googling it but
        didn't find much, which is why I ask.
       
          shermantanktop wrote 6 hours 39 min ago:
          > otherwise known as “table seasoners”
          
          ...to the author, who is now trying to make "table seasoner" happen
          by implying that everyone who is anyone is saying it.
       
          867-5309 wrote 7 hours 43 min ago:
          table salt, but not table pepper or table seasoners
       
          soegaard wrote 7 hours 56 min ago:
          In modern Danish it is "saltkværn" (salt mill) and "peberkværn"
          (peber mill).
       
          curmudgeon22 wrote 8 hours 5 min ago:
          I've never heard that term before (native english speaker)
       
        e_i_pi_2 wrote 9 hours 17 min ago:
         [1] Site wouldn't load for me, here's an archive version
        
   URI  [1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20241228230216/http://quistgaardpe...
       
       
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