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URI What Is Popover=Hint?
pentium166 wrote 18 min ago:
I've been trying to use HTML's native popover and dialog recently. The
promise of not having to write/import focus traps, better integration
with standard platform "cancel" UX, the top layer concept, etc made
them sound great, but in reality it's been kind of painful.
Stacking order when you have multiple modal dialogs and popovers in the
top layer is based on most recently revealed element, so that toast
that just opened is now hidden under a dialog. Anchoring is currently
only supported in Chrome, so popover tooltips show up in the corner.
Firefox supports transition animations when opening a dialog but not
closing it. The web platform feature needed to tie the mobile back
button to closing a dialog isn't actually implemented yet. Frameworks
that patch the DOM might clobber modal dialog state because it's a
function of both the "open" attribute and the result of showModal().
Some of these will improve but I think the display order problem is
here for the long haul.
mirkodrummer wrote 57 min ago:
I have whys not whats. Why we waited so much(years!) for such api as a
browser built in? Why I feel it overwhelming/not well thought off for
such simple use case? I still feel like including a 3rd party library
and instantiating a tooltip to be more straight forward, if anything
these libraries are built upon years of know how and we don't need to
wait for a browser vendor to add a new attribute on his own for a
marginal improvement. Marginal improvement one would understand
immediately right? No "hint" is a not a simple tooltip. And why the
heck we would ever need a table grid to explain a feature that should
be simple? I'm so sick of the web platform and its inefficiencies
vintagedave wrote 3 hours 10 min ago:
This is confusing. In the screen recording, I see two popovers, _both_
of which appear when clicking.
Yet I would view a hint as one that appears simply on hover: a tooltip.
The article jumps ahead "But wait, didnât clicking on the hint
popover close the auto one? ... Because youâre inducing an action
(click), it activates the light-dismiss of the auto popover. This is
almost certainly not what you want when youâre creating a hint
popover." but completely omits what a hint is supposed to be in the
first place and whether this actually is a hint. As far as I can tell,
this hint type of popover is not actually behaving like a desktop-style
tooltip hint.
cwillu wrote 2 hours 52 min ago:
Scroll down to the last example:
URI [1]: https://una.im/popover-hint/#lets-see-it-in-action
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