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   URI   A novelist who took on the Italian mafia and lived
       
       
        sooheon wrote 34 min ago:
        The 2020 adaptation of ZeroZeroZero, mentioned in this article, is one
        of the best crime shows I've ever seen, with basically zero buzz.
        Pretty interesting reading the reason for the authenticity.
       
        antirez wrote 1 hour 44 min ago:
        Sciascia, btw, is one of the biggest thinkers and writers of '900. It
        is not really defined by his mafia-related novels and takes. He used to
        be friend with Borges, and was regarded as one of the top men in
        humanistic culture. Disclaimer: I was born in a town (Campobello di
        Licata) near his town (Racalmuto), but I'm not saying this because of
        this fact.
        
        If you never read Sciascia, I suggest you starting from his last, tiny
        novel: "Una storia semplice". I believe there are English translations
        that can be found around as ebook or used on eBay.
       
        newsclues wrote 1 hour 57 min ago:
        Modern version has spawned TV show
        
   URI  [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Saviano
       
          lormayna wrote 1 hour 53 min ago:
          Saviano is exactly one of the "antimafia professionals" that Sciascia
          complained about.
       
        null_deref wrote 3 hours 31 min ago:
        It angers me that Fascist Italy could push the Mafia to the brink of
        extinction but Democratic Italy can’t.
       
          silcoon wrote 1 min ago:
          [delayed]
       
          trhway wrote 1 hour 58 min ago:
          With Putin's Russia transition to authoritarian and recently becoming
          fully totalitarian, the Russian Mafia of 90s (with the 90s being the
          most democratic time in Russian history), is pretty much no more. FSB
          and police have replaced them in the protection and extortion domain.
          Thus nowdays an arrested colonel of FSB or police may easily have a
          couple cubic meters of money (euro and dollars) at home, to the envy
          of  many mafioso around the world. Or Chechnja - instead of many
          smaller (and poorer and less organized) warlords of 90s, now there is
          only one with personal army of 40000 and exploiting the whole region
          in the style of the most cruel mafia.
       
            pandajoy wrote 28 min ago:
            How about America? And what about Trump?
       
          viktorcode wrote 2 hours 6 min ago:
          They pushed them out of Italy, which forced mafia to adapt in the US,
          eventually becoming richer and stronger. A much more powerful
          transnational mafia returned back to Italy.
       
          nkrisc wrote 2 hours 13 min ago:
          That’s just the state mafia replacing the other.
       
          blell wrote 2 hours 51 min ago:
          Why does that anger you? Democracy is fundamentally unable to solve
          such issues.
       
            Etheryte wrote 2 hours 9 min ago:
            Nearly every democratic country in the world is a counter example
            to this, what do you mean exactly?
       
              dauertewigkeit wrote 1 hour 15 min ago:
              Not true. Organized crime operates largely where people have
              money, i.e. in Europe, it's mostly UK, Netherlands, Belgium,
              Germany, Sweden...etc.
       
                null_deref wrote 51 min ago:
                I’m no expert on global crime stats, but it feels like
                organized crime used to be way more 'in your face.' Back in the
                day, the countries you mentioned including Eastern Europe,
                you’d hear about car bombings, public shootouts, and blatant
                protection rackets. Doesn't the relative disappearance of that
                kind of chaos suggest things have actually improved? Look at
                the UK, for instance the fact that average police officers
                patrol without firearms feels like a pretty strong indicator of
                a more stable society, doesn't it?
       
                blell wrote 1 hour 7 min ago:
                Hell, Belgium is basically a narcostate at this point.
       
            null_deref wrote 2 hours 26 min ago:
            Please elaborate I think there’re quite a few examples that
            contradict this
       
          MrBuddyCasino wrote 3 hours 24 min ago:
          They can, they just don’t do it. This is the case in every western
          „liberal democracy“.
       
            alecco wrote 2 hours 48 min ago:
            They just loooooove the campaign contributions.
       
          locallost wrote 3 hours 26 min ago:
          One Mafia pushed the other out. No improvement for normal people.
       
        reddalo wrote 3 hours 49 min ago:
        Off topic, but I'm always amazed by Archive.md/.is/whatever. To this
        day I don't understand how they manage to bypass a lot of paywalls.
        
        The mystery about the owner makes it even more intriguing.
       
          moffkalast wrote 2 hours 27 min ago:
          Given to how many people its existence must be incredibly
          infuriating, it's so odd that it's not being chased down with more
          haste than pirate bay was. I mean I'm glad it's not, but kinda
          surprised.
       
            dewey wrote 6 min ago:
            The music or movie industry lobby is much more aggressive I’d
            assume.
       
          amouat wrote 2 hours 29 min ago:
          I assume they just pretend to be the Googlebot so the site just gives
          the text.
       
            dewey wrote 7 min ago:
            Won’t work for any popular site. You can try that easily by using
            extensions to set the user agent. If you are not checking the
            public list of IPs that Google publishes for the crawler you are
            doing it wrong.
       
          jama211 wrote 3 hours 34 min ago:
          I just assumed they copied it into their own db
       
       
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