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        Todd wrote 2 hours 7 min ago:
        An early form of domain squatting
       
        kennymeyers wrote 2 hours 54 min ago:
        Amazing to see this on Hacker News. I've recently begun a startup
        called Sweet Shop, meant to fill the hole that Comixology left when
        they sold out. Comics are amazing, and they continue to hold an
        important place in global culture. Ashcans are still called that and
        most publishers still distribute them at cons.
        
        Comics or graphic novels or manga, or however you were introduced to
        them are becoming the defacto literature for good reason. People work
        hard to create them. Ashcans are a nice way to ease that burden of
        getting someone interested.
        
        ( [1] if you're interested)
        
   URI  [1]: https://sweetshop.app
       
        komali2 wrote 4 hours 21 min ago:
        I think it's a bit weird that our society is designed such that
        Palworld can be sued for making a game depicting Pokemon.
        
        For about ten thousand years, humans invented and traded stories that
        often contained characters and environments they didn't invent. You've
        heard of some of these characters - Zeus, Persophone, Hades, all
        recurring characters in stories, mosaics, paintings, statues, carvings.
        Nobody got sued for it, these characters just functioned as analogues
        for emotions and elements and conditions, universally recognizable
        figures that didn't need introduction, they could just be used when you
        needed e.g. a horny character that liked to change people into animals
        and then have sex with them.
        
        Just very, very recently we aren't allowed to do this anymore. Despite
        the fact that Pokemon are a shared cultural experience for millions of
        people from different countries and languages, an opportunity to have a
        universal symbolic story telling language across borders of nations and
        languages, we can't do it because that would harm the ability of a
        single corporate entity to extract value from it as it sees fit. Never
        mind that we have our own stories we might want to tell from this
        shared cultural heritage.
        
        And do we ever have stories to tell! Look at any fan fiction site.
        Among all the smut you get gems like book 4 of the three body problem,
        written by a different author than the original. Look at the incredible
        art created from out of copyright works, like Lies of P for pinnochio
        or House MD for Sherlock Holmes. I want more of these, for things that
        were invented in my time!
       
          croes wrote 3 hours 34 min ago:
          Back then everybody made a little money, now some make a shitload and
          others nearly nothing.
          
          We see that in a lot of businesses especially thanks to the internet.
       
          trhway wrote 3 hours 57 min ago:
          >You've heard of some of these characters - Zeus, Persophone, Hades,
          ...
          
          >Just very, very recently we aren't allowed to do this anymore.
          
          From the beginning of monotheism we see strong attempts to monopolize
          the character of the right and the only God, dating back at least to
          Samaritans vs. Judeans. Some actually see the appearance of
          monotheism as a result of such a successful monopolization attempt.
          And the last 2000 years that monopoly has been enforced by sword and
          fire.
          
          > Palworld can be sued for making a game depicting Pokemon.
          
          at least not declared heretic and burnt at stake like it was 400+
          years ago for unlicensed fan-fiction produced by Luther and the
          likes.
       
            KK7NIL wrote 3 hours 25 min ago:
            > From the beginning of monotheism we see strong attempts to
            monopolize the character of the right and the only God, dating back
            at least to Samaritans vs. Judeans.
            
            1) Samaritans and Judeans do not disagree on which God they worship
            (it's YHWH), they disagree on much more subtle points that are
            largely unique to the Israelite religion like the location of the
            temple mount, the correct version of the pentatuch, differences in
            how to practice some of the rituals, etc.
            
            2) Zoroastrianism predates the Israelite religion and is usually
            considered monotheistic (although some scholars disagree). If you
            loosen your definition to allow henotheism then some eastern
            traditions were first by about a millennia.
            
            3) WTF does monotheism have to do with trademark law? I'm sure you
            think it's a deep argument but it just came off as a total non
            sequitur to everyone else.
       
            steve1977 wrote 3 hours 49 min ago:
            I'm not sure if it makes sense to compare the two. Only one is
            openly fiction.
       
       
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