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   URI   Goldman Sachs now reckons that oil could take out the 2008 record of $147
       
       
        mandeepj wrote 10 min ago:
        I don’t estimates of these investments firms seriously! They talk
        like today’s scenarios will stay put forever - whether good or bad.
       
        mo7061 wrote 1 hour 3 min ago:
        There is one thing to say here, USA wants the price to be high so it
        can throttle china.
       
          smt88 wrote 12 min ago:
          China is rapidly electrifying and gets a lot of energy from non-US
          coal. China also sells renewables to other countries.
          
          The US will be harmed far more than China by consistently high oil
          prices.
       
          bediger4000 wrote 1 hour 1 min ago:
          Trump started the Iran war, apparently on a whim. There's no 4D chess
          going on here.
       
            mhh__ wrote 16 min ago:
            Surely started because of Israel. Maybe there was more back and
            forth but it really seems like the clique around trump are
            specifically in Bibi's pocket
       
            vscode-rest wrote 32 min ago:
            The folks controlling Trump are far more adept plotters and
            schemers than you give them credit for.
       
              wat10000 wrote 5 min ago:
              Can you point to any good plots or schemes they’ve pulled off
              in the past? We’re starting our sixth year with this guy at the
              helm and so far it’s nothing but a cavalcade of stupid.
       
              atoav wrote 6 min ago:
              [delayed]
       
            roenxi wrote 38 min ago:
            It is notable that the worlds major available oil reserves are
            now[0] in Venezuela, Canada, the US and Russia. Democracies are
            capable of playing 4D chess even if none of the people involved are
            up to the challenge. There are a lot of power centres that could
            stop Trump if they saw it as a problem for their interests; like
            Congress, some people in the administration or even a few people in
            CENTCOM (although they'd be more delaying the inevitable).
            
            That being said, unleashing this blow on Asia is insanely risky
            whether it is intentional or no. The Trump administration has a
            well-earned reputation for not being direct in their warmaking and
            the Asian's might decide not to go down without a fight. And the US
            is likely to get nothing but ill-will from the continent for the
            next generation. And I doubt Trump will politically survive the
            blows the US economy will take in the process of shredding the
            global oil market.
            
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   URI      [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_...
       
            ajross wrote 51 min ago:
            High oil prices hurt the US economy much more than China anyway. 
            We're vastly more dependent on shipping and transport and even more
            vastly less elastic with our fuel demand.  The only US interests
            who would want this are domestic oil producers, who are a small
            fraction even of the Republican funding base.
       
        JumpCrisscross wrote 1 hour 39 min ago:
        $147 in July 2008 had the purchasing power of ~$218 today [1]
        
   URI  [1]: https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
       
          master_crab wrote 13 min ago:
          Also adding: the spike in 2008 was transient and partially juiced by
          a weak dollar. Unfortunately, we will probably get no respite this
          time around.
          
          At the current geopolitical trajectory, I also doubt $147 is anywhere
          near the limit of where oil is going.
       
          missedthecue wrote 39 min ago:
          in retrospect, the american obsession and mental sensitivity to gas
          prices is very curious. The average national gas price in 2008 was
          about $3.50 which is almost what it is now in 2026. And being a
          commodity product sold per gallon, there's obviously no shrinkflation
          or enshittification going on. It's actually remarkably stable in the
          face of almost 20 years of steady broader inflation.
       
            JumpCrisscross wrote 25 min ago:
            > the american obsession and mental sensitivity to gas prices is
            very curious
            
            It strikes me as sensible. DRAM being cheaper over decades
            doesn’t negate the impact of recent price hikes.
       
              missedthecue wrote 19 min ago:
              Well it's not just recent price increases. Any time gasoline goes
              above $4, congress is at risk of being flipped (completely
              independent of the current party in control).
       
          selectodude wrote 1 hour 17 min ago:
          Goldman Sachs has been sandbagging their crude forecasts so
          hilariously that I'm convinced they're frontrunning their customers.
       
        seydor wrote 1 hour 54 min ago:
        Iran is doing this without a navy
       
          joe_mamba wrote 1 hour 9 min ago:
          I like how Pete Hegseth was gloating how the world's most powerful
          military managed to sink Iran's navy's shoddy boats sitting in the
          harbors, like it was some some crazy achievement.
       
            testing22321 wrote 54 min ago:
            Or the one coming back from manoeuvres that wasn’t carrying any
            munitions.
            
            War crimes every day.
            
   URI      [1]: https://asiatimes.com/2026/03/trump-us-navy-sank-unarmed-i...
       
              levinb wrote 37 min ago:
              As someone who disdains hyperbolic, motivated framings of
              everything in the news cycle, I normally don't like to use words
              like that. But, it was interesting to see the news discuss the
              "first time since world war two" component of this event, that by
              WWII standards, would have been seen as a cowardly violation of
              the rules of war.
              
              The were in allied water, on a regularly scheduled drill,
              unarmed.
       
                OutOfHere wrote 26 min ago:
                It was the first time for the US since WWII. Other countries
                have used them in combat over the years since WWII. He couldn't
                even get that right.
       
          JumpCrisscross wrote 1 hour 40 min ago:
          > Iran is doing this without a navy
          
          They never needed a navy. And to the degree a navy was helpful, it
          was in the form of fast-attack craft. We don't seem to have hit those
          much yet [1]
          
   URI    [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Islam...
       
       
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