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montag wrote 14 min ago:
Suggestions:
- make the controls work like a typical FPS (i.e. WASD controls should
not rotate the player but just strafe)
- make spacebar jump, and a different key to talk, like T
- make the jump work like a platformer where you start falling as soon
as you release the button. so people can make small hops to the beat
- stop dancing after a few seconds of inactivity
DeepYogurt wrote 1 hour 53 min ago:
This is good internet
starshadowx2 wrote 2 hours 1 min ago:
This reminds me of the 2021 Secret Sky online music festival put on by
Porter Robinson. The 2020 one was similar but the 2021 version had
little human-like avatars. Some other people and me were messing around
with the browser console to do things like change our accent colours or
change the location text above our heads to whatever else we wanted.
URI [1]: https://www.webbyawards.com/crafted-with-code/secret-sky-2021/
URI [2]: https://www.webbyawards.com/crafted-with-code/secret-sky-2020/
1e1a wrote 2 hours 41 min ago:
I made a player motion heat map from ~5 hours of data:
URI [1]: https://i.imgur.com/7lDuJI6.png
stagas wrote 2 hours 15 min ago:
Very interesting! Thank you.
fapi1974 wrote 3 hours 33 min ago:
I just had more fun here than doing anything online for years. Thank
you.
coldfoundry wrote 4 hours 35 min ago:
I joined but seemingly I had to click start on the youtube video and
there was no centralized sync sever. I can only assume the song in the
2hr mix that was playing for me, well, wasnât playing for everyone
else which kills the whole vibe of a rave for me. You should give the
ability for clients to sync to the master playtime so itâs at least
only a few seconds off! Would really increase the vibe instead of
feeling gimmicky.
stagas wrote 4 hours 19 min ago:
You have a point, on the other hand, jumping in a set where I missed
the intro and build-up, kills some of the vibe for me. This way
everyone gets the same experience. That said, the plan is eventually
to sync the rooms if that turns out to be a better experience.
DoneWithAllThat wrote 4 hours 39 min ago:
Aside: Iâm not sure how many people realize how big DJ events are in
VRChat, especially amongst furries. The virtual furry con Furality is
coming up for example and the dances there are huge, thousands of
simultaneous attendees. Worlds for events will have full DMX lighting
control and sophisticated audio setups.
DJs will often do live mixing as well, itâs not just pressing play on
pre-recorded sets, while wearing their VR gear. Recently an event was
fully synchronized between an RL version and VR version, complete with
integrated lighting setup (the same DMX signals were controlling both
RL event space and VR world lighting simultaneously).
Every weekend thereâs dozens of huge rave/DJ events going on 24 hours
a day mostly be EU and US organizers, although Japan goes hard too
(their virtual cons are mind-boggling huge and have major corporate
sponsors).
ge96 wrote 4 hours 44 min ago:
That was really cool, fun
The dance moves are great
stagas wrote 4 hours 16 min ago:
Thanks! For the dance moves I can only take credit that I selected
them, but other people have made them, I got them from Mixamo[0].
Kudos to them!
[0]:
URI [1]: https://www.mixamo.com/
diffs wrote 5 hours 50 min ago:
The whole point of a rave is to take Molly and have fun connecting with
others who have also taken Molly. At least for this introvert.
I was never a fan of Electronic Music, I tolerate it for the drugs and
the temporary extroversion.
stinos wrote 3 hours 31 min ago:
There's a huge variety of electronic music styles. I'd really
recommend trying some without the substances. Maybe the extremes are
your thing? Or the highly melodic euphoric ones? Or dark stuff? Etc..
The nice thing if you find something is that it's also sustainable -
as in: can do this for the rest of your life - which at least for me
is definitely not the case with mdma.
diffs wrote 26 min ago:
Well, I'm a lifelong Metal fan. I like, for example, Goa Trance
well enough, but I don't think I'll ever be able to enjoy just
listening to EDM for pleasure the way I can with say, Technical
Death Metal.
abhaynayar wrote 5 hours 37 min ago:
How do you get into raves, and how do you take "Molly" and connect
with others who have taken "Molly"? (Speaking as an electronic music
super-fan, but curious about having never listened to it outside of
my personal-devices per-se).
slfnflctd wrote 3 hours 24 min ago:
If at all reasonably possible, try to find a place where drugs can
be tested to see what they really are (sadly a rare thing still,
but it exists).
The next best thing to do is talk with people in the scene and find
out what they consider a trustworthy source. Any single person
trying to offer you pills is a potential scammer or worse, you need
to verify from other sources whether they're legit.
There's probably a better than 50% chance you'll get something
close enough to what you want regardless, because incentives are
aligned with everyone having a good time. But just like everywhere
else, bad actors will always exist.
cmwelsh wrote 5 hours 1 min ago:
Facebook these days. Be careful; itâs expected to accidentally do
methamphetamine at these events.
diffs wrote 5 hours 14 min ago:
I lucked out by meeting my partner, and she knew people who were
really into the rave scene so I got into raves by going where they
told me to go.
However there may be other ways. There might be Facebook groups
that advertise raves in your area for example. Event websites,
local blogs. You may or may not end up in a good and fun one, but
you might end up meeting someone who can point you in the right
direction.
One problem you might encounter is age. I find it funner to go to
age appropriate events. If youâre in your 30s for example, you
probably donât want to party with 20 year olds. And electronic
music culture is old enough that at this point you have people in
their 50s still going to raves and doing drugs. So however old or
young you are, donât let that be the barrier.
Molly is something you can only get from a dealer, unfortunately.
Thereâs a site called RollSafe[1] that seems to have decent
information on how to take it safely.
Connecting with people who have taken Molly is easy though. Just
come up to them and offer them a friendly hug.
[1]
URI [1]: https://rollsafe.org/
mountainriver wrote 5 hours 17 min ago:
Most raves are just EDM shows now. In the 90s they were secret
warehouse parties, and instead of Molly it was âEcstasyâ
Molly can be an unbelievable experience but please be very careful
if you have mental illness.
mycodendral wrote 5 hours 18 min ago:
Look up camping EDM festivals.
isopach wrote 5 hours 59 min ago:
Very cool concept, where is the video stream pulling from?
stagas wrote 4 hours 53 min ago:
It's YouTube videos from Hot Situations and HÃR Berlin.
geod_of_ix wrote 6 hours 6 min ago:
Pretty cool so far. I'm wondering if it could go in a more
decentralized direction, gossip or even gnutella.
utopiah wrote 6 hours 16 min ago:
Nostalgia of algorave from COVID times. Weird good times I have to
admit.
PUSH_AX wrote 6 hours 18 min ago:
502, HNHOD?
strongscot wrote 7 hours 49 min ago:
Awesome app, spent 10 mins on it and had a good time - thank you!
One question, not requesting a change, just looking for a "why" type
comment; why did you make it so you can change the progress of the
videos playing?
Reason I ask is, seems to be it would be more immersive/mmo-y, if
everyone was experiencing the same thing as the same time.
Thanks!
stagas wrote 6 hours 16 min ago:
Thanks! The plan is what you're describing, we're just not there yet.
ilvez wrote 8 hours 16 min ago:
Where is jungle basement or something for those who like their beats
broken?
jda5 wrote 8 hours 31 min ago:
I couldn't play, the site didn't load for me :(
The progress bar was stuck on 0% for about 2 minutes afterwhich I gave
up.
I am on Firefox 151.0.1 (aarch64) and if that helps at all MacOs 26.3
(25D125) if that helps at all.
nottorp wrote 7 hours 39 min ago:
It's probably just the HN kiss of death. It loaded on firefox/mac for
me to the point i got some buttons, but it took so long i just closed
the page to reduce the load on it.
resurge wrote 8 hours 3 min ago:
I think it might be a FF issue.
I had the same issue on FF, but it loaded in Chrome. (also took some
time though. 1~min)
EDIT: nevermind, now it also loaded in FF
EwanG wrote 8 hours 23 min ago:
I suspect it got more traffic than expected. See the same results on
Win 11 with Chrome this morning.
jda5 wrote 8 hours 33 min ago:
Couldn't play :( the site didn't load for me
voodooEntity wrote 9 hours 0 min ago:
Damn :D even tho i prolly just gonne use it this single team, it kinda
made my day :) very cool thing - just a collaborative experience to
enjoy !
grvdrm wrote 9 hours 5 min ago:
So fun. Long-time fan of electronic music and am heading to my first
DJ-centered concerts this year.
I think that scene is overrun with influencer types and various types
of recreational substance use. Maybe I'm wrong.
Bookmarking for background while I do other things!
datsci_est_2015 wrote 34 min ago:
Varies heavily by venue and subgenre. All of the shows that I can
remember offhand I saw absolutely minimal phones / videos / picture
taking. It was usually me (briefly) because I love going back through
a decade plus of videos and reminiscing, usually 1-3 per show
depending on how important the show was to me.
Thereâs a sampling bias that occurs if you rely on social media to
inform you how rampant âinfluencingâ is - of course shows with
more influencers will be the ones that show up in your feed, because
theyâre the ones with the influencers!
bitwize wrote 6 hours 40 min ago:
The scene has always been overrun with recreational substance use,
dawg. Partake or not as suits your vibe and life goals, but get ready
for it to be a prominent thing among others.
"Influencer types" are new; social media has been corrosive even to
this scene as well. A number of clubs in the UK and elsewhere are
implementing no-phones policies as a result, so you can dodge some of
it by picking venues.
grvdrm wrote 3 hours 27 min ago:
Fair points all around. I am now flashing back to jam/funk shows
that occurred in smoke clouds.
barbs wrote 8 hours 44 min ago:
Not sure what part of the world you're from but I'm sure you can find
some decent authentic gigs around where people aren't doing it for
the likes and follows :)
Honestly, going to a rave with a dancefloor and cool people is kind
of lifechanging. It's kind of the environment that a lot of (most?)
dance music is made for. Have a great time!
grvdrm wrote 7 hours 9 min ago:
NYC (area). So - fortunately, plenty of folks come through here!
fendy3002 wrote 9 hours 22 min ago:
IJKL for movement instead WASD? An interesting approach...
stagas wrote 6 hours 17 min ago:
WASD is now the default, Tab switches between the two layouts for
anyone interested.
mathgeek wrote 6 hours 28 min ago:
There's a meta joke in here somewhere about going to a rave and
expecting it to be the same norms as the rest of the world.
tejohnso wrote 6 hours 38 min ago:
Perfect.
nottorp wrote 7 hours 36 min ago:
Look, God initially gave us QAOP on 8 bit (1). You WASD heathens are
just kids.
[1] With two sects, M or Space for fire.
foobarian wrote 4 hours 54 min ago:
Nononono ZXMK
nottorp wrote 3 hours 56 min ago:
Maybe on a C64, on the ZX spectrum it would make space very hard
to reach.
foobarian wrote 1 hour 58 min ago:
It's been my favorite key mapping ever since playing Renegade
on Spectrum 128k :-)
0xEF wrote 8 hours 13 min ago:
pff VIM-like or GTFO
SockThief wrote 9 hours 47 min ago:
Great choice of sets!
Really appreciate them.
Just though I drop by and say it, because nobody seems to notice.
stagas wrote 8 hours 53 min ago:
When something is perfect it often becomes transparent /s tysm!
foresto wrote 10 hours 5 min ago:
The first time I saw something like this was in a music-focused virtual
world from the 2000s. Strangers would strike up conversations with each
other, dance (in some cases to well-known artists), wander around to
see what others were doing, and generally just hang out.
I think it was called vSide.
URI [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VSide
doublerabbit wrote 9 hours 52 min ago:
Cokemusic was another one.
Same platform of Habbo Hotel but sponsored by Coca-Cola.
URI [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MyCoke
gobdovan wrote 10 hours 48 min ago:
Do it for VR
filipeisho wrote 10 hours 49 min ago:
ok bro this is fire!!! I wish I would not be able to interact with the
playback of the video, I think what's fun is knowing that we are all
listening to the exactly the same
stagas wrote 10 hours 43 min ago:
Ty!! That's the idea but it needs some work to get there. It's
possible though.
gloosx wrote 11 hours 0 min ago:
Making movement on IJKL instead of WASD is kind of evil
stagas wrote 6 hours 15 min ago:
WASD is now the default, Tab changes between layouts.
stagas wrote 10 hours 44 min ago:
My arrow keys are broken.
doomvwr wrote 10 hours 54 min ago:
Good for lefties!
somewhatgoated wrote 9 hours 11 min ago:
A bit off topic but as someone left handed I use my keyboard and
mouse in exactly the same way as right handed people.
It was much easier to get used to this than figure out a custom
lefthanded setup.
johnisgood wrote 8 hours 8 min ago:
Same... I am left handed and I use the mouse with my right hand,
and WASD would have been much more ergonomic.
crookedusage90 wrote 11 hours 22 min ago:
building something similar, but this is way ahead
crookedusage90 wrote 11 hours 24 min ago:
looks nice
AdammadA wrote 11 hours 28 min ago:
It's cool to see things like this, I wasn't aware of. I made something
similar for VR around 6 or 7 years ago with full DJ mixing on real
vinyl turntables. I got things built so DJs could play their set from
anywhere in the world and have access to their music from their own
studio or home etc. Unfortunately i was one guy making this and health
issues have sadly put this project on hold indefinitely. It would be a
shame to let it die like this and would love others to carry the
project further.
What would be the best way to share this, i really don't know as i
made it using unity engine, all my own assets, scripts etc are made by
me, no vibe coding or anything like that.
Here's a couple of videos of the project if anybody is interested in
carrying this further, please let me know thanks. [1] [2]
URI [1]: https://youtu.be/qXeiqlFA7Rg?t=171
URI [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nub6gKgLt44
URI [3]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWjZUOVbfx4
geod_of_ix wrote 4 hours 56 min ago:
Publish to github or radicle. If you're not sure how, just have an AI
CLI help.
sneak wrote 8 hours 24 min ago:
If you want other people to carry it further, release your work as
free software.
thenthenthen wrote 10 hours 0 min ago:
Super cool, during covid times I sorta started making a system where
you could back2back dj mix with a remote friend, but never really got
anywhere. Would love to pick it up again, or know if there have been
some new developments in this field? There are some âjam
togetherâ type projects but as I recall, these werent really
suitable for DJ mixing electronic music (latency wise).
nluken wrote 4 hours 44 min ago:
Unfortunately, you're usually working against physics and not
software, because, as you allude to, playing music together
requires near perfect latency (some sources say 10ms as an absolute
maximum) that's physically impossible to achieve over a long
distance, even if you had a perfect connection.
thenthenthen wrote 3 hours 31 min ago:
Yeah right? But there must be some clever tricks, like a 1 bar
buffer and only sending timing info and control data over the
network mmmmm
crumpled wrote 3 hours 7 min ago:
Perhaps you're being coy. But, I'm pretty sure people do this.
The performers can collaborate in "real time" (still offset
from each other in real life) and the other participants
(dancers and listeners) only hear finished music at the same
time as all the other participants.
The latency is in the audience/performer energy.
delegate wrote 11 hours 38 min ago:
Fun while it lasted, really cool !
Looks like we hugged it to death though, server is down..
oscarcp wrote 12 hours 9 min ago:
what-a-way to pre-start a work day. Thanks for the contrib! :D
M4v3R wrote 12 hours 38 min ago:
Fun idea! I was surprised that it loaded on mobile and UI was kinda
reasonable but I could tap any buttons to move or do anything. Iâll
look into sending a PR for fixing that.
stagas wrote 6 hours 15 min ago:
Mobile/tablet works now. Tap to target to walk there.
stagas wrote 12 hours 27 min ago:
That would be amazing. I think it would require a complete rethinking
for mobile/tablet a different branch of controls.
QuantumNomad_ wrote 12 hours 4 min ago:
You already have all the buttons on screen. Making them clickable
would make it usable on mobile.
goykasi wrote 12 hours 48 min ago:
And it was immediately fouled by racism.
adzm wrote 12 hours 15 min ago:
Yeah that's not very PLUR :(
embedding-shape wrote 8 hours 33 min ago:
I've been a raver for decades, not until I jumped into reddit I
started reading and seeing people writing about "PLUR" (Peace Love
Unity Respect) a bunch. Our little community never really
interacted with the US side of things, and never used any acronyms
or "sayings" like that, it was just built-in into the community,
and people running around saying stuff like that would be kind of
inauthentic and borderline sketchy. Just be that, no need to say it
or remind others.
Kind of fun and interesting how the two electronic music scenes are
very similar, but things like that remind me how different it is in
say Europe than the US, even though the vibes are obviously similar
and more or less the same, just way more implicit, not so "Look
like this and do that".
evanelias wrote 3 hours 28 min ago:
In the US, it's been a concept for almost the entire time the
scene has existed. In the early 90s, PLUR was popularized by
Frankie Bones, who had essentially founded the east coast US
scene a few years prior.
By the late 90s it was more of an implicit ethos -- you'd read
about it and see it on flyers, but running around and saying it
too often would indeed be considered inauthentic and rather
cringe. Although, a bigger one around that time was use of the
word "rave"; it was always "party" instead, to the extent that
using the r-word in person was a huge faux pas which basically
indicated you were either a poser or undercover law enforcement.
And a "party" was always distinct from a weekly or monthly event
at a club, and definitely not the same thing as a festival.
That's all quite a bit different in today's scene though, which
has been thoroughly commercialized and mainstreamed for the past
15 years, ever since SFX started pouring major dollars into "EDM"
events.
embedding-shape wrote 1 hour 58 min ago:
Thanks for that bits of history :)
> That's all quite a bit different in today's scene though,
which has been thoroughly commercialized and mainstreamed for
the past 15 years
Shame to hear, Europe surely feels a ton different than 10-20
years ago, but still there is something authentic behind most
events I'm still going to, tend to be the smaller ones, might
be why.
But these most exists still today in the US/North America as
well? I know for sure you can find those sort of events in
Mexico for sure, but maybe today they've done the same with the
electronic music events as they did with local broadcasting TV
and it's all been centralized by now, would be sad to hear.
jazzpush2 wrote 12 hours 21 min ago:
Not sure why you're being downvoted - I had a blast until the
inevitable edgelords spamming the N word. Maybe worth someone adding
a PR to filter out such words.
jackb4040 wrote 4 hours 12 min ago:
You can downvote on HN?
ge96 wrote 4 hours 4 min ago:
Maybe the icon shows up when you hit a certain karma number I see
it myself
stagas wrote 11 hours 43 min ago:
Yeah, I added some but they find ways around it. Eventually I'm
monitoring and blocking ips manually. Needs an admin area to make
this easier.
postalcoder wrote 11 hours 21 min ago:
you could use llama guard or openai's omni-moderation model to
flag bad actors
goykasi wrote 11 hours 37 min ago:
Its inevitable in public spaces, especially when there is an
ounce of anonymity.
monocasa wrote 12 hours 53 min ago:
Reminds me of the minecraft based raves during the pandemic.
ptek wrote 12 hours 57 min ago:
haha what a fun site :D.
Two dance sections to the rave site, will you be adding a Psytrance
section?
stagas wrote 12 hours 51 min ago:
Hopefully many more! Definitely also Psy. Ty!
keithxm23 wrote 13 hours 35 min ago:
This is really cool!
madrox wrote 13 hours 38 min ago:
I love silly stuff like this and can only hope that with AI we see more
of it. Enjoyed dropping in and the beats were fire.
cyclopeanutopia wrote 12 hours 28 min ago:
More is less now. :(
emayljames wrote 13 hours 40 min ago:
Looks like you have a serious moderation problem, there are racists
running around using n-word racist slurs
stagas wrote 11 hours 55 min ago:
I try to moderate now, but they keep coming back with different ips.
ptek wrote 12 hours 54 min ago:
it's easier for people to use slurs then to contribute to the source
and make it better.
stagas wrote 13 hours 5 min ago:
PR we add guns and we shoot each other. This is a rave party. Only
love.
0xbadcafebee wrote 13 hours 40 min ago:
I like it! but without ability to execute own dance moves, not really
dancing... Tried with keyboard but it didn't work.. Now imagining
infrared webcam thing and some DIY stick on reflective things.. set up
your own rave cave, attach sensors, dance, your virtual self mirrors...
now you're raving
embedding-shape wrote 8 hours 40 min ago:
You're basically describing VRChat raves :)
tardedmeme wrote 11 hours 10 min ago:
You could also actually go to a rave. It should be easier than
setting up your VR environment.
0xbadcafebee wrote 3 hours 3 min ago:
I would need to drive 4 hours to get to a city that has raves, pay
for a hotel, parking, entrance fee, and it would take 24 hours of
my time
anigbrowl wrote 40 min ago:
And? Back in the day people used to regularly go from northern
California to southern and vice versa for a good party
By people I mean me, I'm sure some people are still doing it
embedding-shape wrote 8 hours 39 min ago:
I'd recommend the same, dancing with strangers is very different
than dancing at home alone.
With that said, not everyone lives in locations where these sort of
parties are accessible, for some it's multiple hours away and not
always doable. I'm happy both exists, but obviously, prefer
in-person events myself any day of the week, and if people haven't
experienced it before, they definitely should :)
stavros wrote 11 hours 45 min ago:
That would be great, can you make a PR for it?
NuclearPM wrote 7 hours 42 min ago:
Thatâs a weird thing to say.
0xbadcafebee wrote 3 hours 4 min ago:
Not weird, that's how open source works
sammy2255 wrote 13 hours 41 min ago:
Seems to be down! Timeout
hnuser wrote 13 hours 49 min ago:
usernames would be cool chat too
arch1pelagos wrote 13 hours 50 min ago:
Rave chat was working fine until I wrote "I think rust is overrated"
and I can no longer see my or anyone else's messages. Yes, really.
rablackburn wrote 11 hours 23 min ago:
if you type "I use Arch btw" you'll be unshadowbanned
stagas wrote 13 hours 42 min ago:
It was crashing so you were losing the connection. Now this should be
fixed.
bflesch wrote 13 hours 50 min ago:
The people who worked on the metaverse must be jealous
nialse wrote 11 hours 22 min ago:
The closest we've ever been!
tdhz77 wrote 13 hours 51 min ago:
Trees are dying because of this game. The epa should go after these
folks for all their money.
pineaux wrote 12 hours 48 min ago:
Are you the kind of guy that says that all things that serve no
purpose except for entertainment should be banned?
I am of the opposite school. I think practical things are fine and
dandy, but the things that make us human, make life worth living, are
all "useless".
stagas wrote 13 hours 43 min ago:
That's why we planted a tree in the game.
submerge wrote 13 hours 49 min ago:
Isn't that true of all games, and even for comments on this website?
Sorry if I am just missing the sarcasm.
Jordan-117 wrote 13 hours 54 min ago:
Shout-out to the dearly departed theclub.zone, which did this with a
bit more panache (as well as a punishingly difficult secret platformer
puzzle). [1] [2] But imho, the truest club experience is the short game
SLAVE OF GOD by Increpare: [3]
URI [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXY_bZvWUU
URI [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9I_zfQrfzM
URI [3]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSmlqOorQqk
URI [4]: https://www.increpare.com/2012/12/slave-of-god/
helloplanets wrote 13 hours 55 min ago:
Did this get hugged to death? Not loading for me at all.
stagas wrote 13 hours 41 min ago:
It was crashing but now it should be ok. Until a new bug arises.
submerge wrote 13 hours 58 min ago:
Very cool to vibe out with folks anonymously. Almost like the old days
where you could go to a rave and be you without fear someone would take
pictures or people outside the rave would know who you are. Would love
an option to cycle skin colors / tones.
inkcapmushroom wrote 6 hours 14 min ago:
Good news, you can still go to raves. There are still people there
being people.
dag11 wrote 9 hours 47 min ago:
> you could go to a rave and be you without fear someone would take
pictures or people outside the rave would know who you are
These still exist! Look for events promoted as such, or look for
smaller local events for the genres you're interested in - the latter
might not ban phones, sure, but the vibe is still what you're
seeking. Nobody's recording you.
olelele wrote 11 hours 25 min ago:
Come to Berlin, you get stickers for the phones cameras and if you
film/take photos youâre thrown out..
elektronika wrote 11 hours 33 min ago:
I hear this all the time as a rationalization for why people don't go
out anymore, but I don't buy it. You're afraid people on the internet
might see you having fun? I've had people shove a phone in my face
and take video while I was out dancing. It's rude, but it's not a big
deal. The reason people don't go out is because Live
Nation/Ticketmaster made live music outrageously expensive and
strangled small venues.
conductr wrote 10 hours 47 min ago:
I donât buy that as the or even a reason. Iâm older and we had
raves before any legit venue would touch them. I remember once a
venue was forced to cancel due to local law enforcement pressure.
It happened the day before. Word spread real quick that we would
just meet in a field on someoneâs private land, a place we
regularly had keg parties and most teenagers were aware of. We
always found a way to party in those days. It was the number one
objective every week, knowing where we would party on the upcoming
weekend. This all was in 90s before anyone I knew had a mobile
phone and the internet was not very useful yet.
My observation is that we were just bored a lot. It has been a long
time since young people have been as bored as we were back then.
Totally different decade, but my 90s high school experience was
very similar to the movie Dazed and Confused. Itâs odd how
similar those experiences were versus what has come with the tech
disruption of youth.
embedding-shape wrote 8 hours 36 min ago:
> My observation is that we were just bored a lot. It has been a
long time since young people have been as bored as we were back
then.
Eh, I think it depends more on the location, than anything else.
I grew up rural, we did basically exactly the same thing as you
described, hosting raves in the forest, beaches and what not
until we get word that police was on it's way (tiny place,
everyone knew everyone, police coming was big news as we didn't
have local police).
We did have cellphones, the internet and more, but still, we were
bored and dancing all night in a forest was the most fun we could
have :) This was between around 2008-2011 sometime.
conductr wrote 4 hours 17 min ago:
Sure thereâs always a lag between city and rural on most
things, even fashion trends and whatnot. That being said, I
think the lag is gone and has fully saturated most places and
demographics by now. The tiktokification is a huge factor that
only hit in late teens in the US.
foobarian wrote 4 hours 51 min ago:
I think things really went off a cliff after around 2012 once
phones and internet got good, and social media cranked up the
algo games.
embedding-shape wrote 1 hour 55 min ago:
I dunno, we were "social mediaing" back in 2000s sometime,
that's when most of the youth started posting pictures of
themselves on the internet and using computers+webcams for
communicating among ourselves, many of us used our Sony
Ericsson (or similar) phones for taking pictures. I think
that particular website that started it all, peaked around
2007 sometime, and was shut down by 2010 already, because of
lack of activity. Plenty of sites between 2000-2010 that was
the predators to modern social media too, some of them
literally centered around sharing and commenting on images,
kind of like Instagram, but way before.
stagas wrote 13 hours 56 min ago:
Yeah, skin colors is a good idea and good for first PR :)
schaefer wrote 14 hours 2 min ago:
I think allowing jumping would add a lot. looking over the top of a
whole crowd would be more visually dynamic.
stagas wrote 5 hours 10 min ago:
Added! b for bounce!
stagas wrote 13 hours 55 min ago:
Good idea. PR will be accepted.
winterrx wrote 14 hours 13 min ago:
add a real player count
SLHamlet wrote 14 hours 15 min ago:
Kinda cool! What's the max concurrency?
stagas wrote 14 hours 6 min ago:
Should scale pretty well to hundreds, only key state changes and
clothes/messages/etc changes are synced when they happen, it uses
dead-reckoning, client authoritative and it's pretty accurate/fast.
SLHamlet wrote 13 hours 46 min ago:
Ah cool. So you replace NPCs with real players as they come in, or
add them into the mix?
stagas wrote 13 hours 40 min ago:
Add them. The graphics support many more. That's why it's low
poly. Of course if it gets popular I will start reducing the NPC
count. Now they're there otherwise there's no "rave party"
feeling.
stagas wrote 14 hours 18 min ago:
The GitHub repository is [1] - License is MIT - All contributions are
welcome.
URI [1]: https://github.com/stagas/hallucinate
stagas wrote 3 hours 41 min ago:
Now that I have your attention, I've made this and I've been
unemployed for a very long time -due to health issues- but now I'm
fine and I'm looking for a job, creative frontend development in
TypeScript is my specialization. Remote preferrably - European
timezones. My email is in my HN profile if anyone's got any offer it
would be amazing. Tysm everyone!
haggy wrote 1 hour 28 min ago:
First, congrats on getting healthy!
Secondly, since you're presenting this as a portfolio entry, I have
some open, honest feedback. I quickly reviewed the repository and
there are some pretty major orange-red flags that would dissuade
employers from reaching out. Some of them include:
- Lack of coherent repository structure. All files under src/ with
no sense of modularity
- The commit messages are very poor. Messages like "cool" and "jump
jump" and "perf" do not provide any context to anyone outside of
yourself (and probably not even you will remember what those
changes were days/weeks from now)
- There are magic numbers everywhere. The biggest offender I found
was in shaders.ts
There are more but those are the top ones I saw from my quick
review. Again this isn't meant to discourage you. I wanted to
provide the feedback to help you be more successful with potential
employers. Cheers!
jackb4040 wrote 4 hours 17 min ago:
This is unhinged, I love it! Just a flat hierarchy of like a hundred
ts files.
It see some mixamo references. How are you playing animations? Is it
optimized in any way for that many characters?
stagas wrote 4 hours 12 min ago:
The animation player is made by the AI and there have been many
optimization passes but the AI did them so I can't help you really
with that question. I'm using GPT 5.5. I initially tried Three.js
but it was way too slow, so I went building shaders directly. I
figured the fastest paths will need to be tailored to the use-cases
and a framework is good for humans at the expense of performance
but since now we can just write the specific code directly that's
better.
madanparas wrote 14 hours 12 min ago:
Add a README file, bro
FrankSansC wrote 13 hours 5 min ago:
And at least one screenshot
stagas wrote 6 hours 20 min ago:
I added.
stagas wrote 14 hours 8 min ago:
I don't want to push now because it will restart the server and
break all connections :/
nemothekid wrote 13 hours 59 min ago:
add [skip ci] to your commit message
vaylian wrote 10 hours 15 min ago:
docs:
URI [1]: https://docs.github.com/en/actions/how-tos/manage-work...
stagas wrote 13 hours 44 min ago:
I added.
DIR <- back to front page